Revealed: Final Veyo bill to hit £7m

Dixon: focus on case management was perhaps wrong

Dixon: focus on case management was perhaps wrong

The bill for the Law Society’s failed conveyancing software project Veyo is likely to be £7m, its chief executive has revealed.

In a wide-ranging interview with this website – which will be serialised over the coming days – Catherine Dixon said that she and president Jonathan Smithers pulled the plug because “the amount of time and further investment needed to get Veyo to a successful launch was too great, particularly in light of the change in the market”.

However, in terms of accountability for the failure, she indicated that internally the only consequences would be a ‘lessons learned’ process that was underway, given that all those involved in developing Veyo were no longer involved at Chancery Lane. Ms Dixon herself only joined at the start of 2015.

Even though Mr Smithers, a conveyancer himself, has been a Law Society office-holder since 2013, she pointed out that he had only become a director of Legal Practice Technologies – the joint venture company with IT giant Mastek that was meant to be delivering Veyo – in February 2015, as did she shortly afterwards.

Not long after, Veyo’s chairman – her predecessor Des Hudson – and chief executive Elliot Vigar left their positions, and an independent review was commissioned to look at whether Veyo was ready for launch. “Jonathan worked really hard to try and make the product a success,” Ms Dixon said.

The problem, she explained, was that the original vision of Veyo as a portal which would provide innovations such as the chain view and a secure deal room – which she described as “pretty sound” – morphed into creating a case management system.

This has now been overtaken by the Free2Convey product being offered to clients of members of the Legal Software Suppliers Association, with its launch is due next month.

So how did this happen? Ms Dixon, of course, was not there at the time, but she said: “My understanding is that when they were looking to start developing the portal, there was a recognition that particularly for those firms that didn’t have case management systems, there would have to be some sort of enabler to help you to access the portal and therefore part of Veyo was starting to build that case management system platform…

“On reflection perhaps that focus on case management was wrong… I’m genuinely really sorry for the people that were waiting for Veyo.”

Given these events, what confidence can Law Society members have that the lessons of Veyo really will be learned? She said: “We’ve got a brand new management team in the Law Society, people who have come in from other organisations where they’ve got a clear track record of success – particularly with commercial ventures.”

Further, she pointed out, the society has commissioned a review of its governance, and last week appointed Dr Nicola Nicholls LVO to lead it.

The review will consider, among other issues, securing wider member involvement, the role of the society’s council, the right structures to support the council, “the representativeness of the council as the profession changes”, and the role of the office-holders.

Dr Nicholls is a former director of private equity firm Charterhouse Capital Partners and a former non-executive director of BPP University. She is currently chair of the Woodland Trust.


    Readers Comments

  • Rob Hailstone says:

    I am trying to locate “the people waiting for Veyo”. any takers?

  • Gareth Woodhouse says:

    Not here. However I did offer my services to aid drive this forward right back at the beginning when they approached the market for feedback. Seems their unwillingness to accept help from those with expertise in this area aided their downfall..

  • Jules Cohen says:

    Absolutely awful. What do they take us for? Their guilt is obvious to everyone but themselves. The poor saps at Veyo built what TLS wanted them to build and changed it over and over again at TLSs request – this is well documented. Now they are getting blamed for its demise by those in charge. The product was ready for a beta launch in April. How does a business that is well funded, resourced and has a beta product fail before it is even launched? Ask the ones with the sloping shoulders in this article. I am appalled.

  • Gary Taylor says:

    Someone, somewhere benifited, because £7million doesn’t just disappear.
    Lol, no one’s ever accountable, and and the end results is a lesson’s learned exercise.
    Follow the money.

  • Ronson says:

    Isn’t it interesting that nobody has heard from Hudson or Vigar or indeed any of the other senior people at Veyo who left in quick succession after TLS effectively took over – on what really happened behind closed doors? No serialised interviews with them – only the party line from Dixon.

Leave a Comment

By clicking Submit you consent to Legal Futures storing your personal data and confirm you have read our Privacy Policy and section 5 of our Terms & Conditions which deals with user-generated content. All comments will be moderated before posting.

Required fields are marked *
Email address will not be published.

This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Learn how your comment data is processed.


Conveyancers: are you afraid of outsourcing?

For many years, outsourcing has been seen as a bit of a scary prospect within the conveyancing sector. But thanks to the stamp duty holiday, conveyancers are now realising some of the many benefits.

You win some, you lose some – class actions post Google

In November, Google received two court rulings, through which it both closed and opened the door to class actions against it. So what do the decisions mean for future class actions?

Clinical negligence, a changing market – part 1

The consolidation of law firms through merger and acquisition has resulted in fewer, but more sophisticated and expert clinical negligence practices.

Loading animation