Mayson: poor state of legal training opened the door to the Co-op and others

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By Legal Futures

14 October 2011

Mayson: I don’t believe the Legal Services Act would have been possible if we were really creating a profession that was fit for its purpose

Legal education and training are unfit for purpose, causing lawyers to fail to meet the needs of clients and leaving the profession exposed to rival market entrants filling the gaps, according to Professor Stephen Mayson.

Speaking this week in London at a UCL Laws debate ‘Do lawyers need to be scholars?’, Professor Mayson said proof of lawyers’ educational deficiencies could be seen in the success of organisations such as Co-op Legal Services, which “has become in five years from a standing start a £30m legal business… which takes it into the top 100 [law firms] very comfortably”.

“I don’t believe the Legal Services Act would have been possible if we were really creating a profession that was fit for its purpose… lawyers who were doing what the marketplace wanted in ways it wanted, at times it wanted, at prices it wanted,” he said.

Addressing an audience that included many legal academics, Professor Mayson, who is director of the Legal Services Institute, said: “I am delighted there are so many law teachers, law faculties, law firms and professional regulators who are delighted with the outcomes they create. That, however, is an internal view. It doesn’t take much account… of those who use and pay for those outcomes.”

The view was challenged by other speakers in the debate, which was chaired by UCL’s Dean of Law, Professor Hazel Genn, and sponsored by LexisNexis.

Fellow UCL law professor, Philippe Sands QC, argued that it was necessary to resist the view that legal education should be “informed by the need to respond to what consumers and the marketplace want”.

He said he deeply regretted having himself studied law at university instead of history or economics, adding: “The place of a university is to widen your mind generally… and to engage in critical thinking… The thing about law is that fundamentally it closes the mind because it causes you to think in particular ways… Law is inherently conservative.”

It was important for society to decide whether lawyers were business people or have a different social function, Professor Sands suggested. He rejected the notion that law is a business: “When I provide legal advice as a barrister, I don’t think of myself as a business person; I think of myself as a professional person bound by a duty of independence,” he said.

David Bickerton, Clifford Chance’s regional managing partner for London and the Middle East, said his firm was “reasonably content” with the 130 graduates it recruited each year, about half of whom have law degrees and half do not. What matters is that graduates have aptitude, a willingness to work, are problem-solvers and have a vocation: “It’s a fabulous job where someone asks what your opinion is, you tell them, and they give you money,” he said, to general amusement.

Addressing legal education as a whole, Professor Mayson said the four educational stages undertaken by solicitors were each flawed. The academic stage should not have become so influenced by vocational demands; the vocational stage “is far too focused” on things practitioners will not do and spends too little time on what they need; the training contract is too long and a “significant barrier” to global practice; and continuing professional development “confuses the need to comply with assurance of competence”.

Skills that should be taught, he said, were legal research, writing and reasoning, together with ethics and economics, to equip solicitors to produce content and communicate it, while developing “professionalism and a business context”.

Other speakers on the panel included Rebecca Huxley-Binns, a criminal law teacher at Nottingham Trent University. She argued that the seven foundation subjects of a law degree should be abolished, to be replaced with “intellectual law-related subjects”, such as ethics, case law and legislation, legal writing, business awareness and problem solving.

Speaking from the floor, Bar Standards Board chairwoman Baroness Ruth Deech said it was “quite nonsense” to suggest law teaching was not fit for purpose. The dilemma for the profession is somehow to match up the surplus of law graduates who cannot obtain training contracts or pupillages with people who need legal advice but cannot afford the fees due to legal aid cuts, she argued.

Professor Sands said the number of law graduates had increased from 5,200 a year in 1998 to 13,000 in 2010. The reason, he said, is that “the provision of undergraduate and other graduate legal education is hugely profitable. Universities are turning to it because it provides a massive subsidy to other areas.”

Professor Richard Moorhead, deputy head of Cardiff Law School, highlighted the important role of academics in developing legal practice, giving as an example the renowned work on conflict resolution of the Harvard Negotiation Project. He called for home-grown equivalents, for instance a UK advocacy project, to leverage Britain’s global reputation for the quality of its advocacy.

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2 Responses to “Mayson: poor state of legal training opened the door to the Co-op and others”

  1. Nice story.

    I think the point that poor training has opened the door is an interesting idea, and one which seeks to put added oomph behind the need for a training review but I am not sure it is correct.

    In particular, I do not see legal training as being the reason why Co-op etc are ready and able to step into a weak market and take on all comers. The reasons why they are able to do this are more to do with: the power of their brand; the ability to invest (which has much to do with the weakness of traditional law firm models of investment); and hte lack of vision and leadership, especially in the private client sector of the market, within the profession. One can see how the fitness of education and training can play some role in the latter, but I am not sure that we can plausibly claim it’s role is a primary one.

    That’s not to say that there are not problems with training or that it is fit for purpose. It was interesting to hear Stephen, at the debate, and reflected here, emphasise that it was the training element which seemed to be most problematic: whether this is the LPC/BPTC or the training contract/pupillage, or all of these is something which could be debated.

  2. Richard Moorhead on October 14th, 2011 at 8:43 am
  3. Stephen’s beginning to make me feel worryingly ‘on message’ – not somewhere I’m usually very comfortable. RBP’s Legal Market Driver review (2011Q2) made precisely these points – entirely independently of the Legal Services Act issues and simply from an economic perspective on the market drivers.

    Different conclusion though – academia feeding thousands of graduates for whom the law holds no mystery, reverence or fear into the market is a good thing. This army of ‘differently qualified’ lawyers will never challenge the top firms and contentious bastions – nor want to. They are and have been for decades now making legal services markets relevant in ways that solicitors, barristers, insurers and bankers never could.

    Protectionism is ultimately destructive, but demand doesn’t wait for regulators or vested interests – it leaks out somewhere. Co-op have done well, but since the late 70s there have been a growing number of firms tackling legal services that law firms don’t even recognise.

    Tweaking the Guildford/Chester courses – even selling the College of Law – or redesigning CPE points schemes won’t make a much difference. The only real pinch point is around reserved areas of law – and Clementi wanted these reduced, not extended. And ultimately even the conveyancing reservation didn’t prove that effective.

    Meanwhile we have to endure a snowstorm of noise and disruption over ABS. They practice protectionism and call it consumer choice, while the real game is elsewhere.

  4. David R Johnston on October 14th, 2011 at 9:54 am

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